I’ve been thinking about using the Liven app but I’m unsure if it’s really worth it. I’ve seen mixed feedback about rewards, restaurant options, and how reliable the app is when paying in-store. Can anyone share their recent experience with Liven, including any issues with payments, missing rewards, or customer support? I’m trying to decide if I should commit to using it regularly and would really appreciate detailed, up-to-date opinions.
I have used Liven in Melbourne and Sydney for about 2 years. Short version, it works, but you need to know where it makes sense.
Here is my experience.
- Rewards and LVN
- Typical earn rate for me was 5–20 percent back as LVN.
- Higher percent often means the venue is less popular or off peak.
- LVN value tracks 1 LVN to about 1 local currency unit when you spend it in the app.
- I usually get around 8–12 percent “real” return over time, because sometimes I forget to use it or pick lower reward places.
- LVN price as a crypto token jumps around, but if you only treat it as store credit in the app, it feels stable.
- Restaurant options
- In CBD areas it is decent, lots of bubble tea, cafes, and mid range Asian places.
- In suburbs it gets patchy fast. Some areas have 10+ options, others have almost nothing.
- Chains are hit or miss. I saw quite a few small groups and independents but not many big national chains.
- If you are picky about cuisine, you will feel limited. It works best if you are happy to choose from what is on the map.
Tip: Open the app, set your home and work areas, and count how many places you would truly go to this week. If it is under 5, I would skip it.
- Paying in store reliability
- I have had maybe 2 failures in ~80–100 payments.
- Most issues came from bad internet, either mine or the store’s WiFi.
- When it fails, staff sometimes look confused. Some venues train staff, some do not.
- A few times staff pushed me to pay with card instead because they did not know the Liven flow.
What helps:
- Open the app before you reach the counter.
- Check your data works and the venue page loads.
- Tell staff “I am paying with Liven” before they press buttons on their POS.
- If it spins or errors, take a screenshot of your attempt, then pay normal card. Support usually fixes it, but it is annoying.
- Support and bugs
- Support replies in 1–2 business days for me.
- They fixed double charges and missing rewards, but it took some back and forth.
- App crashes happened maybe once every few weeks on my Android, usually after an update.
- I log out and in again if something feels off. Fixes half the glitches.
- When it feels worth it
- You eat out at partner places at least 2–3 times a week.
- You are ok letting the app influence your choice, for example “these 3 ramen spots are similar, I will pick the 15 percent one.”
- You treat LVN as store credit, not as an investment.
- When it feels not worth it
- Your area has weak coverage.
- You prefer specific restaurants not on Liven.
- You hate any chance of payment hiccups at the counter.
If you want to test it, my suggestion:
- Install, turn on notifications for nearby offers.
- For two weeks, only use it on meals you would eat anyway.
- Track how much you spent and how much LVN you earned.
- If the effective cashback is under 5 percent or you run into lots of friction, delete it and move on.
For me it sits in the “nice to have” bucket, not essential, not a scam, just another rewards app with some quirks.
I’ve been using Liven in Brisbane for a bit over a year, so adding a slightly different angle to what @sterrenkijker said.
Short version: it’s “worth it” only if you naturally fit its ecosystem. If you have to bend your habits around it, it gets old fast.
Where I disagree slightly with @sterrenkijker is on treating LVN purely as store credit. In theory that’s how you should look at it, but in practice the crypto part does leak into the UX. I’ve seen promo pushes, staking stuff, graphs, etc that clearly try to make you think about “value” and “growth.” If you’re the type who gets FOMO, the app design can nudge you into over‑optimizing for rewards instead of just eating where you want. Not a scam, just mentally tiring if you’re reward‑sensitive.
My breakdown:
- Rewards
- The % back looks great on paper (10–20% is not rare on new venues), but:
- High % often shows up on places that are average at best or awkwardly located.
- Sometimes “20% back” tempts you into going somewhere you wouldn’t have chosen, so your real value is lower because you spent more or traveled further.
- The friction cost matters: opening the app, checking the % vs other places, doing mental math. If you’re someone who just wants to tap card and go, the extra brain process is not worth 5–8% back.
- Restaurant coverage
- Absolutely check your actual daily routes. Map view can look “busy” but when you filter by “would I actually eat here” it shrinks fast.
- In my case, there are 3 places I genuinely like and ~10 that are “fine if I’m already nearby.” That translates to using it maybe once or twice a week, not every day.
- If your must‑have spots are not on there, you’ll keep defaulting to non‑Liven meals and the app becomes a side quest you forget about.
- In‑store reliability
- Tech side mostly works, but the human side is iffy. Staff training is inconsistent.
- I’ve had:
- One staff member flat out say “We don’t use that anymore” while the venue was still live in the app.
- Another tell me to pay by card first, then they tried to “scan” the Liven thing after the fact, which obviously does nothing.
- To avoid awkwardness, I now only use it at venues where I’ve already successfully paid with Liven before. First‑time tries at busy lunch rush are asking for pain.
- Support & trust factor
- Support fixed my issues too, but I’d rate the overall trust experience as “ok, not great.”
- You’re in that annoying place where:
- It’s not your bank, so it doesn’t feel bulletproof.
- It’s not tiny either, so you expect more polish than you sometimes get.
- If you’re the type who hates even minor billing weirdness, the few glitches will overshadow the rewards.
- When I’d say “yes, install it”
- You eat out a lot near CBD or uni areas with decent partner density.
- You’re flexible about where to eat and do not have a strong “favorite venue” attachment.
- You can ignore the crypto marketing and just view LVN as “points” you burn regularly.
- You’re okay with the occasional awkward chat at the register.
- When I’d say “skip it”
- Your usual restaurants are not on there and you’re not interested in changing.
- You value a dead simple payment flow more than a few bucks saved.
- You know you’ll forget to open the app half the time, which kills the effective cashback.
If you’re undecided, my approach would be: use it only when it creates zero friction. If at any point you’re walking extra blocks, changing plans, or arguing with a cashier just to earn LVN, you’ve passed the point where it’s “worth it.”
Short take: Liven is “worth it” if you treat it as a niche side tool, not your main payment method.
Where I slightly disagree with what’s already been said: I don’t think you have to be perfectly aligned with the ecosystem for it to be useful. Even if you only hit one or two regular venues, Liven can still pull its weight as long as you are disciplined about how you use it.
Pros of using the Liven app:
- Genuinely high rewards on some venues, especially new or promo ones
- Good for people who already experiment with new restaurants in CBD or uni areas
- The balance can feel like a “fun money” pool if you redeem often and ignore the crypto hype
- When staff actually know it, in‑store payment is quick enough
Cons of the Liven app:
- Partner list can feel big in the app but small once you filter to “places I’d actually go”
- Staff knowledge is patchy and that awkward “uh, we don’t take that” moment is real
- The LVN / crypto wrapper can distract you into chasing rewards instead of just eating
- If you are forgetful or hate extra taps at checkout, your effective cashback drops a lot
Compared with @sterrenkijker’s perspective, I’m slightly more optimistic on using it for just one or two reliable places. If there is a cafe you hit three times a week that supports Liven and actually knows how to process it, you do not need to change your whole routine to come out ahead.
My rule of thumb:
- Keep a mental “Liven list” of 3 to 5 spots where it has already worked smoothly.
- Use it only there and ignore the rest of the map unless you are in the mood to explore.
- Treat the LVN as store credit that you burn regularly so you do not overthink the “value.”
If even that feels like too much mental bandwidth, then the Liven app is probably not going to be worth the small savings for you.